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	<title>Comments on: Things I can&#8217;t do in Firefox without using a mouse</title>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://philwilson.org/blog/2007/03/things-i-cant-do-in-firefox-without-using-a-mouse/comment-page-1#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 03:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am hoping this bug will be closed soon:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Things like this:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Reported: 2001-05-01 14:28 PDT by dave shultz&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tends to make me wonder how a bug of this sort can be left for this long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hoping this bug will be closed soon:</p>
<p><a HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414" REL="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414&amp;referer=');">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414</a></p>
<p>Things like this:</p>
<p>Reported: 2001-05-01 14:28 PDT by dave shultz</p>
<p>Tends to make me wonder how a bug of this sort can be left for this long.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Wilson</title>
		<link>http://philwilson.org/blog/2007/03/things-i-cant-do-in-firefox-without-using-a-mouse/comment-page-1#comment-1086</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 22:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Greg, I do do those things on my own PC, but for the Flash issue in particular I&#039;d rather not have to remember and install an extension for something that should be part of the native build. I consider this to be a serious usability issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Greg, I do do those things on my own PC, but for the Flash issue in particular I&#8217;d rather not have to remember and install an extension for something that should be part of the native build. I consider this to be a serious usability issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://philwilson.org/blog/2007/03/things-i-cant-do-in-firefox-without-using-a-mouse/comment-page-1#comment-1085</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming you are using keyconfig extension:&lt;br/&gt; http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/keyconfig&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You can add a bit of js to make the change to nsIPrefService.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;var prefs = Components.classes[&quot;@mozilla.org/preferences-service;1&quot;].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIPrefService);&lt;br/&gt;prefs = prefs.getBranch(&quot;greasemonkey.&quot;);&lt;br/&gt;prefs.setBoolPref(&quot;enabled&quot;, !prefs.getBoolPref(&quot;enabled&quot;));&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let me know if you need more help with keyconfig.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In regards to the flash issue, one thing I have found that helps quite a bit is the flashblock extension:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://flashblock.mozdev.org/&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This prevents flash from trapping your keypresses, and mouse wheel scrolling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming you are using keyconfig extension:<br /> <a href="http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/keyconfig" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/keyconfig?referer=');">http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/keyconfig</a></p>
<p>You can add a bit of js to make the change to nsIPrefService.</p>
<p>var prefs = Components.classes["@mozilla.org/preferences-service;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIPrefService);<br />prefs = prefs.getBranch(&#8220;greasemonkey.&#8221;);<br />prefs.setBoolPref(&#8220;enabled&#8221;, !prefs.getBoolPref(&#8220;enabled&#8221;));</p>
<p>Let me know if you need more help with keyconfig.</p>
<p>In regards to the flash issue, one thing I have found that helps quite a bit is the flashblock extension:</p>
<p><a href="http://flashblock.mozdev.org/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/flashblock.mozdev.org/?referer=');">http://flashblock.mozdev.org/</a></p>
<p>This prevents flash from trapping your keypresses, and mouse wheel scrolling.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://philwilson.org/blog/2007/03/things-i-cant-do-in-firefox-without-using-a-mouse/comment-page-1#comment-1084</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See also &lt;a HREF=&quot;https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bug 78414&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See also <a HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414" REL="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414&amp;referer=');">bug 78414</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: finn</title>
		<link>http://philwilson.org/blog/2007/03/things-i-cant-do-in-firefox-without-using-a-mouse/comment-page-1#comment-1083</link>
		<dc:creator>finn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A similar problem that&#039;s been irritating me recently is that you can&#039;t tab out of a rich-text editing context in Firefox. You can, however, shift-tab (backwards) out of one. &lt;a HREF=&quot;https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190513&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bug 190513&lt;/a&gt; (opened Jan 2003).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A similar problem that&#8217;s been irritating me recently is that you can&#8217;t tab out of a rich-text editing context in Firefox. You can, however, shift-tab (backwards) out of one. <a HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190513" REL="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190513&amp;referer=');">Bug 190513</a> (opened Jan 2003).</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair</title>
		<link>http://philwilson.org/blog/2007/03/things-i-cant-do-in-firefox-without-using-a-mouse/comment-page-1#comment-1082</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There must be a way, when you have a screen reader it provides a way. (Although perhaps it is via Flash and the screen reader, rather than a browser command?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There must be a way, when you have a screen reader it provides a way. (Although perhaps it is via Flash and the screen reader, rather than a browser command?)</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Wilson</title>
		<link>http://philwilson.org/blog/2007/03/things-i-cant-do-in-firefox-without-using-a-mouse/comment-page-1#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For flash, that&#039;s just crazy. There must be a way of allowing users to get out of it, even if it&#039;s another keyboard shortcut. I was expecting that F6 would work, but it doesn&#039;t. Once your tab focus is inside a Flash widget, it&#039;s trapped forever. Lame.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yes, some Chrome gubbins would allow it (I suppose there might already be a keyboard shortcut that I just don&#039;t know about), but it should be part of the base install.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For flash, that&#8217;s just crazy. There must be a way of allowing users to get out of it, even if it&#8217;s another keyboard shortcut. I was expecting that F6 would work, but it doesn&#8217;t. Once your tab focus is inside a Flash widget, it&#8217;s trapped forever. Lame.</p>
<p>Yes, some Chrome gubbins would allow it (I suppose there might already be a keyboard shortcut that I just don&#8217;t know about), but it should be part of the base install.</p>
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		<title>By: Irregular Shed</title>
		<link>http://philwilson.org/blog/2007/03/things-i-cant-do-in-firefox-without-using-a-mouse/comment-page-1#comment-1080</link>
		<dc:creator>Irregular Shed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No easy way to tab out of a Flash widget, sadly, seeing as it&#039;s an embedded application that captures the focus. I get caught as well, both with tab and by trying to use the scroll wheel on the mouse.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m sure someone could come up with a plugin that would allow it. As for Greasemonkey usage, maybe hacking the Chrome gubbins would allow it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No easy way to tab out of a Flash widget, sadly, seeing as it&#8217;s an embedded application that captures the focus. I get caught as well, both with tab and by trying to use the scroll wheel on the mouse.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure someone could come up with a plugin that would allow it. As for Greasemonkey usage, maybe hacking the Chrome gubbins would allow it?</p>
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